It’s usually just people who don’t know how to process lectures on the go …. -> Yup, this was me. I transcribed because I do poorly at learning by just having people talk at me. I need to read to absorb info properly.
Which is p legit but most students I see do this don’t re-visit those notes to take better ones. Part of it is they don’t realize they ought to, and partly because who’s got the time? AND they don’t do the class readings either. ~_~
Speaking as someone who does do the class readings, never misses class unless absolutely necessary, transcribes verbatim and revises notes - going to class and writing in longhand is 100% not enough for me to learn material. I also have to record my classes, then use the recording to supplement my notes and correct inaccuracies/misunderstandings.
This is because most of my lecturers (law) don’t really plan out lessons efficiently. Instead, they just go in with readings and a general topic in mind, and then yammer for three hours… Or they diverge completely from whatever plans they did have for an hour, but make sure to point out that all divergences are also examenable. It’s so easy to get lost… I don’t know how people would take a longhand form of notes without missing loads of valuable, disorganised information?
I always wrote longhand in undergrad, but when I tried it in law I tanked horribly…. In a class structure that’s built on 100% finals (in my case 50/50 closed or open book), relying only on longhand notes is a recipe for disaster (unless you have a study group to compare/contrast with).
I’d be interested to see how these results would change across different lecturing styles and subject matter.
EDIT: longhand notes are best for notes on readings, though
urrggghh YES poorly prepared lectures are DEFINITELY going to be terrible to study for, whatever you do.
My notes tend to be extremely sparse (phrases, re-wording of sentences) because I skip over the whole process of long-handing it to go straight to what concepts is being talked about, specific phrases I think the professor will be looking for in the exam
I’ve been attending lectures by different professors and I notice that professors who build in time for students to discuss topics within lecture hour, who carefully define in succinct terms specific phrases and concepts they want students to remember are WAY better to take notes from than professors who have a general outline of what they want to talk about and ramble and, worse, repeat themselves (which isn’t always bad, but frustrating when whatever they’re repeating is actually not useful).
So yeah I’d be interested in that study too.
One thing I’ve adopted from one of my favourite profs after taking her undergrad class, is to write phrases on the whiteboard that will be important, allowing students to see what it is I find important/interesting. Then they also have a visual bookmark of what the topic is about to riff off.
I wish I had that ability to zero in on what’s being talked about/what will be looked for in the exam. If it’s not outright stated (like the whiteboard example) I need to invest a couple hours in review before the picture becomes clear (and even then who even knows?).
I also feel like 3-hour class blocks are just not good for students or faculty. It’s hard for both parties to focus, and class almost always ends early due to fatigue, which results in playing catch-up in later classes, which then results in missing material by the end of the year.
UGH yes, for law lectures my laptop is an absolute necessity and I have absolutely no idea how people can hand write things.
The biggest value for me is the ability to change and rearrange things so that connected ideas are close together. My notes are somewhat flowcharty in form and the ability to move things into a rational order (since the lectures aren’t necessarily presented in a very rational fashion) is absolutely critical. Without my laptop, my class notes would be a long, rambling string of disorganized nonsense that would take infinitely longer to sift through.
#SO MANY OF MY PROFS GET CHEEKY ABOUT LAPTOP USE#BECAUSE THEYVE SEEN STUDIES LIKE THIS#AND IT REALLY IRKS ME#THE MEDIUM OF NOTE TAKING IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING#ITS THE STYLE#THE LEVEL OF PRACTICE AND DILIGENCE#I WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO FUNCTION IN A LAW SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT IF I HAD TO WRITE BY HAND#MY STYLE OF LEARNING AND NOTE TAKING IS JUST INCOMPATIBLE
I love your tags they are perfect… I’m starting to think it’s just that law professors aren’t the best teachers?
Yeah our profs may have been successful academically and/or in their careers but that doesn’t have any correlation with ability to teach.
Also I like that my theme made my tags allcaps. Yelling angrily about note-taking.
Anon has a burglar break in
This perfectly summarizes why I love the Simpsons and hate Family Guy.
Yeah, the treatment of Meg in Family Guy literally has ZERO context except for misogynistic-based comedic value.
I can’t handle Family Guy at all, for this exact reason (in addition to all of the totally unnecessary violence, racism, transphobia, etc.)
from the art of kill la kill (part 1)
art by Hiroyuki Imaishi, Sushio, You Yoshinari, Akira Amemiya, Shigeto Koyama
Table confirmed for ssb4
Working in customer service
Today I had a woman refuse to swipe her credit card because she didn’t want to get “radiation poisoning from the computers. They cause that you know. I do Tai Chi to get rid of it.”
I had a customer re-order a burrito 5 times because the cheese was never at the correct amount of “melted”.
But of my god that woman is unreal.
So my sister was filming her cats outside…